Deaths from abortion vs guns since 1973

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  1. It’s about cattle control.

  2. 33 abortions to one gun related death in America.

  3. A little more SELF control will help both numbers.

  4. andrewbheard says:

    I realize that for some reason that I have not quite discerned, you have a disdain for my thoughts on this issue, but I would like to propose a question because I like that you are so passionate about it and I agree that I hate both of those numbers. What do you do with the soteriological implications of the number of naturally induced abortions?

    This is the questions that keeps me from being as passionate about my position on the issue as you are.

    Andrew B. Heard
    http://www.andrewbheard.com

  5. John Barron says:

    What do you think the soteriological implications are?

    By naturally induced, do you mean the pregnancies which the mother’s body doesn’t take? The difference between a natural death and an intentional taking of a life should be obvious, morally speaking.

  6. andrewbheard says:

    John,

    Maybe you aren’t aware of the meaning of the word soteriological? Obviously I understand the difference between murder and natural death. The question that I am posing is based on the number of natural abortions that occur and the correlating salvific implications. Research the number of naturally induced rejections of embryos in the first zygote stage. The question that this raises is, does heaven or hell consist mostly of souls that never past the first zygote stage of development?

    Maybe it does, honestly I don’t know, Scripture doesn’t tell me. This is why in the vast majority of situations, I am pro-life, because I don’t know. It does raise an interesting and difficult question in the plan of eternal life if the majority of people die at such a premature stage of development.

  7. John Barron says:

    Andrew

    I know what soteriology is, I was asking what you thought the implications were. There are some who believe that unless there is an active conscious acceptance of Jesus as savior, hell awaits. Then some believe children before the “age of accountability” will be ushered into heaven. That’s why I asked.

  8. andrewbheard says:

    okay that makes sense, I couldn’t tell that from your response since you just seemed to slam me for the difference between murder and natural abortion? While age of accountability has no Scriptural backing, I defiantly am not in the first camp. I was serious when I asked what your thoughts are. I really don’t have an answer.

  9. marshalart says:

    It seems to me, Andrew, that the question is rather moot. That is, it has no real bearing on how we, in our limited capacity as human beings, view the question of abortion at all. What happens naturally is irrelevant to what happens by choice in this matter. And while the question can engage us in stimulating speculation, to answer the question one way or the other cannot be allowed to affect decisions we make regarding abortion.

  10. Atticus says:

    You might also enjoy this little chart I made. Gun deaths from suicide: http://wp.me/psW0l-Vt

  11. John Barron says:

    Thanks atticus, that’s a great one to keep on hand. It really fades the presumptions behind raw numbers.

  12. Atticus says:

    I agree. Statistics are a funny thing.

  13. Chris says:

    If Republicans really cared about kids they wouldn’t use parent’s mistakes as reasons to cut funding on children’s programs… and they wouldn’t throw away any of the kid’s lives for total gun freedom.

  14. John Barron says:

    In what world do Republicans use parent’s mistakes to cut funding? Could you cite a bill where that is the case?

    And how does further restricting law abiding citizens throw away kids lives? Isn’t it criminals (you know, people who dont follow the law) who kill kids?

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