Embracing Homosexuality: America’s Litmus Test

Chick-Fil-A has announced its support for traditional marriage and it should come as no surprise that they have caught some flack for it.  What is surprising though is where it’s coming from.  The Mayor of Boston has announced that he will use his power to prevent the fast food chain from opening in the city.

(Boston Herald) — Mayor Thomas M. Menino is vowing to block Chick-fil-A from bringing its Southern-fried fast-food empire to Boston — possibly to a popular tourist spot just steps from the Freedom Trail — after the family-owned firm’s president suggested gay marriage is “inviting God’s judgment on our nation.”

“Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion,” Menino told the Herald yesterday.

It’s difficult to know where to start with this.  Mayor Menino is openly engaging in political activism.  It would seem he believes that because Chick-Fil-A doesn’t support same-sex marriage they don’t deserve to do business in the city.  What’s most troubling is the mayor’s willingness to distort Chick-Fil-A’s stance.  How has Chick-Fil-A discriminated against anyone?  They haven’t to my knowledge.  But this is the accusation.  No one has been prohibited from buying food because of their sexuality.  The one time I had been to Chick-Fil-A they didn’t ask whether I was hetero or homosexual, and no one else in line was either.  Quite frankly, there is no discrimination going on — not from the restaurant anyway.  These are activist tactics: distort your opponent’s position, accuse them of wrong doing, then attempt to silence them without debate through shame and slander.

Christians have been warning about this for some time now.  Extolling and embracing homosexuality is quickly becoming a litmus test to determine whether an individual or business is acceptable.  It might come as a surprise to the mayor, but there are legitimate reasons to oppose same-sex marriage.  Is this what it’s coming to?  Unless you embrace and champion homosexuality you will be discriminated against?  Is it OK because opponents of same-sex marriage are legitimate targets?

Activist proponents of same-sex marriage have been telling us for years that this issue doesn’t affect anyone; that all they want is to live and let live.  I have known all along that wasn’t true.  So did they.  And now so does Chick-Fil-A…and a wedding photographer who objected and was fined for not participating in a same-sex marriage ceremony, and an inn owner who objected and wouldn’t participate in a same-sex marriage ceremony.  Live and let live is not an option, you must participate…or else.

I wonder if Mayor Menino realizes the irony of claiming Chick-Fil-A discriminates.  Perhaps he has plans to keep the two-thirds of Americans who have voted to officially recognize marriage as one man/one woman from entering his city as well.  On second thought, let’s not give him any ideas.

Comments

  1. Well said. Speak it forth.

  2. Marshall Art says:

    The Willy Wonka poster points out the blatant hypocrisy of the mayor’s position, which is evident in the activists’ position as well.

    • Its funny, I see the wonka memes all the time on Facebook and I wanted a pic to go with this and came up with it before I even wrote the post. But yeah, it seems like liberals are OK with the double standards. Its fine for them to discriminate, its fine for them to silent e their opponents, its OK for them to get people fired for their beliefs because their discrimination is warranted because they are right.

  3. I am sooo tired of people, on hearing anyone disagrees with anything gay activists demand, immediately jumping to accusations of hate and homophobia. Gay activists don’t even represent all gays. Are gays who oppose SSM (not all of whom do it for religious reasons) also haters and homophobes?

  4. “…after the family-owned firm’s president suggested gay marriage is “inviting God’s judgment on our nation.”

    I welcome and affirm Chick-Fil-A’s take on marriage, though (like many Christians) the “president” got it wrong.
    Homosexuality does not invite God’s judgement on our nation. It ‘IS’ God’s judgement on our nation!

    “The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven…
    “Therefore God gave them over…”

    God removing His hand of restraint.

  5. I’m just waiting for the arrival of some unthinking liberal suffering from pathological altruism to stick up for Mayor Menino. They’ll do so because they don’t quite comprehend that people have a right to be free from unjust persecution because of their opinions; the morality of SS-M quite aside.

  6. TerranceH says:

    *regardless of their political opinions.

  7. I think there’s an obvious hypocrisy on the part of a lot of gay marriage advocates. You’re intolerant if you don’t agree with them, and your a bigot and you should suffer. This stuff sells well in the media though, so how do we counter-punch?

    I think we have a strong moral argument. We have a strong legal argument. And I think to Kolasinki we now have a strong economic argument: http://dynamopolitics.com/2012/05/23/the-economic-argument-against-gay-marriage/

    The opposition has two main thrusts – there is a right to marriage (there is not), and that historical precedent is on their side. The problem with the last argument is that it leads them to adopt the same slippery slope logic they accuse us of using. The next time you’re in a debate, point that out. They won’t like it.

    • Dynamo

      I think you’re right when you observe that those who advocate for the “homosexual agenda” believe their opponents should suffer- politically, socially, economically (in some cases lose your job or business). It is a very aggressive and hostile movement.

  8. I think thanks to Kolasinki*

  9. Reblogged this on collegechristiangirl and commented:
    As most of you who are on my facebook saw, the other day I was accused of being a bad person for still going to Chick-Fil-A. This is article I really really like, and it gets the point across of why I think it is ridiculous that we are all expected to embrace same sex marriage or else.

  10. It should come as no surprise (SURPRISE!) that many if not most liberals don’t actually agree with government interference with Chick-Fil-A based on their religious convictions regarding abortion. Beyond the fact that it is illegal, it is also unconscionable to refuse to allow a company to do business merely because they give money to people you don’t agree with. If we were talking about a business that was donating money to a terrorist organization, sure- we do that already. If that same company was giving donations to a Palestinian group that was humanitarian or merely political in nature- then I hope we would all see it as unconscionable to refuse them the right to do business.

    Chick-Fil-A is not giving money to terrorists. They are giving money to groups that have an increasingly unpopular political agenda- as is their right. It is my right to not eat there because I am uncomfortable with how they spend their profits- as it is your right to not shop at JC Penney, or Target because of their public support of SSM. This is the risk that companies take when they enter the fray of political hot-potatoes.

    I wouldn’t care if a restaurant was owned by the Grand Wizard of the KKK, so long as he is not selling nooses and pre-fueled crosses at the take out counter- he has just as much a right to operate a legal business as the next person. Preventing someone from owning a business because they are shitty human beings is a fundamental attack on their First Amendment rights. They cannot force me to eat there, but they cannot take away my right to eat something that would be perfectly legal if it was served by a liberal.
    I don’t have a problem with the letter I saw from the Boston Mayor, since it really is just moral suasion and not official policy. I do have an issue with some of the comments he has allegedly made since- as well as virtually everything that has come out of the Chicago politicians. I don’t expect you agree with the Conservative politicians who want to give public monies to religious separate schools in Louisiana- for example- and I’m sure you can understand that a few stupid liberals do not paint a whole movement.

    (Cue comment from someone saying ALL LIBRULS R STOOPID!)

  11. “(Cue comment from someone saying ALL LIBRULS R STOOPID!)”
    I’ve noticed some interesting things about this particular blow up.

    First, support for the mayor’s idiotic, dictatorial and illegal stance is being enthusiastically supported – I know a few people who have been sharing a copy of his letter on social medial with comments about how great it is. None of them have any awareness of what was actually said that triggered this, but they all made comments about Chick-fil-A being “discriminatory” as *policy*, which is completely false. They all called for a boycott (which is funny, coming from Canadians, since we don’t have any Chick-fil-A’s here), yet these same people condemned in the most vile ways, those who called to boycott JC Penny. What’s good for the goose is definitely not good for the gander.

    Second: support for the anti-Chick-fil-A boycott, while being mostly from the liberal/left politically, I am also seeing from the conservative/right. The pro-SSM stance is fairly bi-partisan, as is the anti-SSM stance.

    Third: tumblr explosions aside, support for this boycott is actually very much a minority position. For all the people who’s heads are spinning in their condemnation of “homophobes” and “bigots” at Chick-fil-A, they are a very loud, very rude, very obnoxious, very ignorant (as opposed to stupid) minority. I have seen far more people, on both sides of the political spectrum, as well as people who made clear that they were gay and supported SSM, who condemned the condemnation.

    Fourth: the fall out in comparison to the JC Penny, Target and Oreo boycotts and this one is astonishingly different. When people wanted to boycott the above for their support of SSM, etc., gay activists and their supporters all said that they would go shopping at these stores or buy Oreos. There may have been an uptick in sales, but if there was, it hasn’t been noteable. Compare this to the sudden upsurge of people now going to Chick-fil-A! Their restaurants are apparently overflowing with costumers, with drive through customers wrapped around the block, to the point that people are complaining (in a positive way) that they can’t get in. I’ve heard so many comments from people talking about how they don’t normally go out to eat, but they’ve been to CfA several times in the past week – not “I plan to go” but “I’ve gone.” The folks I’ve seen gleefully predicting that this was going to hurt CfA’s business have been proven dramatically wrong.

    So while it may be tempting to point at Liberals and say they’re stupid, it is not solely a Liberal position. One can fairly safely say, however, that the anti-CfA folks are acting very stupidly, and have succeeded only in creating a backlash of support for CfA that they never intended.

    • Kunoichi

      Very astute observation, there really isn’t much I can add except one side feels it acceptable to berate, harass, slander, and call names the people on the other side.

      George

      I appreciate your honest look on the issue. The only think I can disagree with is your assertion (and Dan’s) that support for traditional marriage is waning, or that support for same-sex marriage is up. I absolutely agree it polls up, but when it comes down to the individual in the voting booth, the population remains steady 2:1 in favor of defining marriage as one man and one woman (http://truthinreligionandpolitics.com/2012/05/16/polling-discrepancies/). I agree that people, when questioned on the phone, knowing how people who oppose same-sex marriage are treated (“homophobe” “bigot” “hater” etc.) they are more likely to tell the pollster what they want to hear. Even though “I disagree” does not equal “I hate you”, same-sex marriage activists and advocates do see the two as the same. Si in that respect, I don’t think same-sex marriage is as popular as people think it is. It has only been instituted by legislative and judicial fiat, never by the will of the people.

      • And notice too George, States which boast very liberal populations and are considered “Blue States” have voted to define marriage in the traditional fashion. This doesn’t just have conservative support.

  12. Kunoichi-
    John will tell you (since we are friends on FB) that I shared the Mayor’ letter on my FB page. I shared it because the letter itself is well parsed and not at all illegal. It is an act of moral suasion- telling CfA that they should reconsider their plans to open a store in Boston. Not at all comparable to his alleged (I’ve heard) comments or the reaction of the alderman or Mayor of Chicago- who are threatening that it will be policy in the city to disallow CfA restaurants.
    I guess you and I know a very different group of people- because I find it difficult to find a single politically active friend who agrees with the barring of CfA from any city. Perhaps I need more Conservative friends- since you feel this is a bipartisan stance? (I have 4 Conservative friends, 7 libertarians- out of the 72 friends I classify as “politically active”, I counted) You seem to think there is enthusiastic support- and I’m not seeing it.

    I live in Canada, and as you say, we don’t have CfA here- but my parents winter in FLA and I am in the southern states at least once a year- so you can take my threat to the bank. I don’t have a problem with boycotts, I didn’t have a problem with people boycotting JCP or Target- I think that how you spend your money is your right- both as a Corporation and as a citizen- so long as you do so legally. I don’t know a single person who cried foul over Christian boycotts of Disney, or JCP or Target. You seem to know many of them. I guess you just spend more time with unreasonable people. I enthusiastically support people who boycott any store based on their personal beliefs- I don’t always agree with their reasons. I wouldn’t say those people are “bigots” per-se, but actions say a lot about what they are.

    It seems some people here want to conflate boycotts with government action as though those things were remotely similar. I agree with every boycott, I disagree with government interference with a company that is selling a legal product just because that company supports FoF or the NoM or Muslim Palestinian Humanitarian agencies.

    John, I’ll give you some time to rethink your argument. I know you are smart enough to see what you are doing wrong. I’ll get to that tomorrow…….

    • Perhaps I phrased my comment badly, as you are misunderstanding a lot of what I said.

      “…the letter itself is well parsed and not at all illegal.” No, the letter itself was not illegal. The mayor saying he would not allow a CfA to open in Boston because he is own personal views are in disagreement with the CEO of CfA’s personal views is what’s illegal. And *that* is what people I saw sharing the letter were enthusiastically endorsing.

      “I guess you and I know a very different group of people- because I find it difficult to find a single politically active friend who agrees with the barring of CfA from any city. ”

      Very likely. I try to include people from all spectrums, politically and socially, in my life. I also try to follow news media, blogs, etc. from all sides of the issue. My comments were based on my observations of all of these.

      “…since you feel this is a bipartisan stance?”

      While I agree that, in general, people on the liberal/left tend to support SSM while people on the conservative/right tend to support traditional marriage, I encounter plenty of people who are the reverse – a large enough sampling to say that things are more bipartisan then is assumed.

      “You seem to think there is enthusiastic support- and I’m not seeing it.”

      Really?? Maybe it’s a matter of location. I don’t do twitter, but even I have seen it from there, plus there’s tumblr and Reddit, among others. Plenty of entusiastic support there, with more then a few more extreme suggestions made. It’s really quite vile and pretty insane. Among those in my social networking circles, there is always the same small group (with both liberals and conservatives in that number) who ALWAYS jump on any bandwagon that supports gay activist demands, no matter what they are. They have no problem with politicians banning or punishing private enterprises for their views on gays and SSM, so long as those views oppose their own, or are from Christians (despite their claims that they blame all religion for such things, I never hear a peep out of them when it comes to Islam, even when it involves Muslims demanding gays be killed). Of course, if a politician tried to do the same to an organization or business they support, they would scream fascism from the rooftops. heck, they’ll even make up their own facts, just so they can freak out about the eeeevvviiilll Republicans/conservatives/Christians, then call you a bigot if you point out that their facts are wrong.

      As I mentioned before, however, they are very much in the minority. They are convinced they in the majority, however, and believe that they are on the “right side of history” (a rediculous phrase to begin with) and are morally superior to anyone who does not fully and wholeheartedly agree with them.

      ” I don’t know a single person who cried foul over Christian boycotts of Disney, or JCP or Target. You seem to know many of them. I guess you just spend more time with unreasonable people.”

      LOL! They certainly don’t see themselves as such! And WOW did they ever cry foul!

      I don’t have a problem with boycotts, either. It’s when those calling for boycotts also demand that the companies/organizations they’re boycotting be legally sanctioned, or even completely destroyed, over the personal opinions of people in them (whether it’s a CEO or a low level employee) that I start having a problem with them, and that’s what’s happening (well… what these folks are demanding to happen) with CfA.

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