And before anyone wants to challenge the thought that Liberals don’t try to condition girls while they’re young to become morally numb to abortion, they persistently fight parental notification laws requiring a child’s parents know that their daughter is, 1) sexually active and, 2) their daughter is about to take the life of their grandchild. They have gone so far as to provide abortion inducing medication to girls as young as 14 years-old without parental notification. Shouldn’t we find it suspect that schools would hide from a young girl’s parents that they are providing her with drugs to terminate a pregnancy and would also suspend the same girl for taking Tylenol without notes and parental permission? Is that not just a little backwards? Who do they think they are that they can determine that abortion is the best option for a 14 year-old girl and that her parents shouldn’t be in the know? Is it a stretch to believe that if Liberals thought they could get away with it, they’d have Planned Parenthood teaching sex-ed classes?
Liberals seem to have an ‘I know better than you’ attitude and frankly, they are becoming more brazen in what they try to control. Too much soda, no more styrofoam, no more toys in happy meals, you need different light bulbs, your toilet flushes too much water. Where will it end?
Why do we tolerate what the government does “for” us. Where did all the things we have allowed the government to do for us, which we used to do ourselves, come from? John Kennedy’s famous line, “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” has turned into what your government can do for you, whether you want them too or not. They decide for us what we need them to do, then they tell us how much we need to pay for it. But do we need all the things they do? Sure, we need fire departments, police, and military. Ok, lets have that, get out of everything else, let the towns and cities price out the jobs.
It’s becoming increasingly frustrating what aspects of my life the government believes is its business to meddle.
Sifting Reality 
Agreed. They think they’re creating a utopia… by force. It’s funny to think that they believe we’re the ones who force our beliefs on people. I guess it just depends on whether or not the forced belief is one they agree with.
Even so, what are we forcing people to do? Abortion: I guess it’s too much to ask for people not to kill other people. Gay marriage: We’re forcing them to believe that there are good reasons to get married that cannot be said to apply to gay couples. And… That’s about it.
But we’re the ones who want to control everyone. Their intrusion into every aspect of our lives (including abortion for kids and gay marriage) is not control, I guess.
We live in interesting times.
“interesting” is a rather mild way to put it.
Planned Parenthood doesn’t recommend abortion as the best option. Planned Parenthood provides women with information about a variety of options, including adoption. Don’t young people deserve to know what all their options are? If we don’t want teens to be pregnant and if we don’t want teens to get abortions, then we need to educate them about how to be safe and protect themselves.That’s something that Planned Parenthood wants too. My question is, though, why would you want to allow a young person’s life to be ruined by an unwanted pregnancy? I believe a 14 year old is capable enough to make decisions about her own body. And if a 14 year old girl decides she does not want to go through 40 weeks of extreme changes, pain, and discomfort, why can’t she make that decision on her own?
333, 964 abortions and 2,300 adoptions. What does this tell us about Planned parenthood’s services?
But more to the point, why dont we let 14 yearolds vote, drive, own real property, enter into contracts, have credit cards, and other thing? Because they arent mature enough with the life experience to make informed decisions with the long term consequences in mind.
But we’re not talking about letting 14 year olds vote and what have you. My point is that a 14 year old owns her own body and when it comes to something as extremely life-changing as pregnancy, why can’t she make her own decision about what she will do with her body – whether that’s keeping it, giving her baby up for adoption, or termination?
And if you’re going to talk about Planned Parenthood’s services and what they’re about, you should know that abortion-related services make up only 3% of what they do. Abortion is not what PP is about.
It might be 3% of the total services, but abortion is where they make their money.
And what we’re talking about is more than a 14 yearolds body, abortion takes the life of a living human being.
Abortion comprises 91.5% of the services given to pregnant women at PP. They are an abortion mill. I’d hate to see what the dumpster looks like.
https://siftingreality.com/2013/01/09/2012-saw-the-second-highest-number-of-laws-restricting-abortion/
I would also like to add that teenagers are capable of making good decisions with long-term consequences in mind. Do you even know teenagers?
Liberals are… undesirables. They’ll answer one day.
christinabee is not worthy of serious consideration, John. The very first sentence of her first reply is so obviously and evidently false, you might as well regard anything else she has to say as too stupid to consider.
Christinabee, in all other medical procedures, an under 18yo cannot be treated without parental consent. The only exception is abortion, a procedure that not only destroys a developing child, but damages the mother, sometimes permanently, both physically and psychologically.
There was a time when 14 yr olds were considered young adults and were treated as such. In today’s world, children are infantilized to the point where they are still considered immature in their 20’s. This is actually by design of the “progressive” school system that has developed over the past 150-200 years in the US (which is based on the 300yr old Prussian model). Children are removed from their parents at ever earlier ages, to be “educated” by “experts” while parents are being told they are not adequate for the job; each generation becoming successively less confident in their own abilities and more dependant on authority figures.
So no, today’s 14 yr olds (in general, particularly those in the public school system) are NOT capable of making such decisions on their own, because they are purposely developmentally delayed when it comes to maturity and critical thinking. They have been indoctrinated, including being indoctrinated into “progressive” ideas regarding abortion. Parents are being kept out of the picture because they are the greatest danger to “progressives.” Parents are the enemy (and no, I’m not being hyperbolic).
So Planned Parenthood doesn’t push abortion? Doesn’t lie to women?
Undercover Video Proof
The Rosa Acuna Project
Description: The “Rosa Acuna Project” is a multi-state undercover investigation documenting Planned Parenthood’s use of unscientific and fabricated medical information to convince women to have abortions.
The Mona Lisa Project
Description: The Mona Lisa Project videos document Planned Parenthood’s willingness to repeatedly violate mandatory reporting laws for statutory rape that protect children. Our series of hidden camera investigations, collected by a team led by Lila Rose in summer 2008, provide the public the inside story about the abortion industry and its abuses across the nation.
Caught on Tape: Planned Parenthood Cover-Up of Child Sex Trafficking
Hey, christinabee…You lose…
I wonder, if Planned Parenthood doesn’t recommend abortion as the best option, how come nearly every single pregnant woman who is a “patient” of Planned Parenthood has an abortion, 91.5%
John,
The three-percent figure actually comes from PPFA’s March, 2011 Fact Sheet. If you read it you’ll find that of the 11,383,900 “services” Planned Parenthood provided, only 332,278 were abortions, which accounts for just under three-percent of all services.
Seems straightforward enough, ‘eh? Take a closer look. You’ll notice that each procedure, even those directly related to abortion, are deceptively catalogued as its own
service. Even the two-seconds it takes for a receptionist to hand someone a condom is counted as its own service.
You don’t just mosey into an abortion clinic, lay on a table, and have your child ripped apart. No, no. There are procedures you must go through first. You must have your pulse (1), blood pressure (2), and respirations (3) taken, collectively known as vital signs. You’ll be evaluated quickly by your abortionists (4). You’ll likely receive a pregnancy test (5), perhaps an Rh Type test (6), and an ultrasound (7). You might also receive a CBC (8) and a Chem Test (9). Once the abortion is complete, you’ll receive a pack of birth-control pills (10), and some antibiotics (11). And you’ll likely have a follow-up appointment (12), which will include even more services.
So by the time the abortion is finally over, Planned Parenthood will have performed nearly 20 services not counted as abortion, even though they were directly related to the abortion.
Planned Parenthood and their clapping seals like chrstinabee can spew all the nonsense they want, but all you have to do is look at their detailed report online and you’ll see the truth.
Anti-lifers are liars – by nature.
And then of course the video evidence I provided clearly shows Planned Parenthood employees spewing factually incorrect medical information in an effort to convince women to have their children slaughtered.
So don’t tell me Planned Parenthood isn’t about abortion. Planned Parenthood is entirely about abortion. It’s their largest source of income. They get rich by ripping little babies apart, then throwing them in a f*cking dumpster. Would you like me to provide video evidence of aborted children in trash dumpsters?
I have no use for the supposedly “pro-choice” element in our society. I think they’re all pigs. In fact, “pig” is too good of a term. It’s an insult to pigs. I said they’re more like parasites, but I don’t want to insult parasites either. There truly is no label for them that accurately describes just how terrible they truly are. I have NO use for them whatsoever.
This has been proven wrong. Next…
Planned Parenthood pushes abortion with factually incorrect information. This has been proven. Next…
Of course.
If we don’t want teens to be pregnant and if we don’t want teens to get abortions, then we need to educate them about how to be safe and protect themselves.
Sure.
Only an idiot of elephantine proportions believes that Planned Parenthood wants to reduce that which accounts for most of their income. Planned Parenthood itself may be non-profit, but rest assured that the people who run it, like Cecile Richards who has an annual salary of $385,163 plus benefits, are very pro-profit.
This is an informal fallacy. You are begging the question, assuming the initial point.You’re assuming that babies ruin the lives of young parents, and as someone who was a young parent (yes, a teenager), I can say without hesitation you are entirely wrong.
So if a 14-year-old wanted a tattoo, you’d be okay with that? No, no. Let’s take it even further. If she wanted to sleep with a 64-year-old, would you be okay with that? Why not? It’s her body, right? She’s capable of making decisions about her own body, right?
If she’s pregnant at 14, then obviously her decision-making skills aren’t that great. Wouldn’t you say?
John, the problem with young, supposedly “artistic” liberals like christinabee is that they’ve haven’t the good sense God gave a goose. Their life-experience is often limited to writing maudlin poems, scribbling bleeding hearts on bedroom walls, and skulking around the edges of reality in a perpetual state of cluelessness. Worst of all is that they think they have some incontrovertible insight into cultural issues like abortion and homosexuality.
It’s best to ignore them. I know, I know. I should heed my own advice.
No. What are they?
I’m a liberal (somewhat-the term is vague) and I think abortion is wrong. The two (being a liberal and thinking abortion is morally wrong) can go hand in hand. I’m not saying that you would deny this, however, from the tone of some of the comments (liberals want X, or think X), it seems that some may think the two views must necessarily come apart. They need not.
Justin
Admittedly, I am making a generalization based on the positions of the majority of liberals.
Just because a generalization is a generalization, does not mean it is not accurate.
I was listening to a Pro Life Dem last summer describe how Pro Life folks were treated at the convention and how they are intentionally marginalized in the democrat party in general.
While I agree that there are some Pro Life liberals, the democrat party is not a particularly inclusive of that particular minority.