Doesn’t it strike you as at all strange that behaviors which lead to the displays at pride parades are considered normal and opposition to such behavior is considered hateful and abnormal?
Doesn’t it strike you as at all strange that behaviors which lead to the displays at pride parades are considered normal and opposition to such behavior is considered hateful and abnormal?
The parades always demonstrate abject perversion and debauchery, and they wonder why we normal people don’t want our children taught it as normal in the public school!
What are you talking about Glenn?? Straight people have parades like this celebrating their straightness all the time…don’t they?
I almost spit my drink all over my computer screen! Thanks for the guffaw.
I have always questioned the legitimacy of such a poorly constructed strategy. I have asked gay activists for years why they either think this is necessary or, what, if any, positive outcome they could hope for was. I have never gotten a cohesive or cogent answer. Hence my children have never been to a gay pride parade. I also struggle with pride of any kind, so am naturally leery of something celebrating such a narrow bandwidth of human emotion. I mean if it’s natural……why the parade?
I think that it is important to understand that gay pride parades are a caricature of the actual gay community. It is meant stir emotion and promote conversation about sexuality.
Having said that – I think many gay people would probably think displays such as this are pretty ridiculous. Just like most Christians would agree that Westboro Baptist church is pretty ridiculous.
Atticus,
I don’t think it is a caricature at all. I see this type of thing weekly in Iowa City, and they aren’t on parade. It is them let loose from whatever inhibitions they have about the perversion – they can get away with it enmasse.
While it may not represent those who want to keep their sex lives private, I think it very much represents the activists who want to push homosexuality in our face.
Your analogy with WBC is erroneous – they are a non-Christian cult pretending to be Christian.
Sorry Glenn, you are wrong again about WBC, and to boot they will tell you loudly to your face that you are a non christian.
What makes them wrong and a cult, but you right, and not a cult?
Nash,
Every real Christian out there will tell you the same thing – WBC is not a Christian church. They do not follow the teachings of Christ, period. But you know that, don’t you!
What’s a “real” christian?
A cult is defined as deviating from orthodox views of Jesus.
I wrote a while back “the essentials of christianity” parts 1 and 2. Check those out nash
I read those posts John, but you do understand the conundrum, right? Of the thousands of sects of christianity most are saying that the others are deviating from the orthodox views of Jesus. The Coptics will say that you are getting it wrong, the Anglicans will say the Coptics have it all wrong and the Calvinists will say that you are all getting it wrong, while the Catholics sit by in the public square quietly, yet strategize privately about how to undermine all of them.
So to say that in your opinion, WBC deviates from Jesus’ orthodoxy seems to fall flat since they say you fall short or are not following the doctrine….and will perish in Hell for such a misinterpretation. It would seem that the absolutism in which the average conservative christian on this blog approaches this unique problem, is met with absolution from the other party’s. You think you are right, they think they are right.
And we haven’t even discussed the pre-Lutheran Protestants, Anabaptists or snake handling Pentecostals.
The theory of personal absolute rightness, and truth, of having a doctrine on one’s side, and an unyielding world perspective are all of the earmarks that all zealots of the Abrahamic faiths have in common.
How do you square this?
Well… You could point to multiple sources in the heterosexual community to demonize it on that basis. Almost any movie, most pornography, music, TV, etc.
All communities have “sexual deviants” not just the gay community. So I think its a little like the pot calling the kettle black…
Atticus,
Be serious.
The homosexual community is deviant and perverse by definition of being homosexual.
The heterosexuals who are deviant are in the minority, and normal heterosexuals condemn pornography and other perversions.
I would say homosexual sex is the deviancy from the natural heterosexual sex, not a community from which normalcy turns deviant. Just like other sexual deviancies are their own category.
“The heterosexuals who are deviant are in the minority, and normal heterosexuals condemn pornography and other perversions.”
I think that is true for the vast majority of homosexuals as well. Especially the ones I know personally.
Sorry Atticus, but homosexuals are by nature deviant and perverse in their behavior. ALL who practice homosexual behavior are.
On what basis do you think this? Other than your distaste for homosexuality in general?
If you step out of a religious context homosexuality is just like any other lifestyle.
In extremist Islam, for example, non-muslims are by nature perverse. That doesn’t make it true. It just makes those who believe that religious extremists.
Without some basis for religious logic beliefs are hollow.
People involved in homosexual sexual relationships are plagued with sexually transmitted diseases as well as emotional and psychological issues. This comes from gay friendly and government sources. Issues that other demographics dont have even if they engage in similar sexual behaviors. So it is not like other lifestyles at all.
What is at issue is behavior not people. And you dont need any religious argument to show that homosexual sexual relationships are harmful physically and mentally.
Any sources?
Here are a few scholarly sources that prove my point:
1. http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ron-paul-personally-opposed-to-same-sex-marriage-but/
2. http://features.pewforum.org/same-sex-marriage-attitudes/slide3.php
3. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502263/posts
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_parenting#Misrepresentation_of_research_by_opponents_of_LGBT_rights
5. http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
6. http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/general/2010/10/27/amicus29.pdf
7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_parenting#Children.E2.80.99s_outcomes
8. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths
The cdc and the advocate
Atticus,
Long before I was a believer in any religion, I knew intrinsically that homosexual behavior was perverse. It violates the design of human sexuality, let alone the human body. Biology 101. It is NOT just like any other lifestyle, unless you want to number it among things like necrophilia, bestiality, and perversions of that nature.
There is plenty of logic for Christian beliefs, by the way.
I can see that you have no problem with homosexual behavior, which tells me your own mind is deceived.
I have to think that, though the possibility presented by Atticus might be put forth as an “official” explanation, it is more likely that it is merely an excuse to indulge in public lewdness. It’s like saying a sex scene in any movie that ever had one was ever absolutely necessary.
But! at least one town has had enough. I hope other cities follow Dallas’ lead.